Fear creates suboptimal choices and that’s the point
Note: We can answer this ominous question: “What would an anti-vaccine administration look like?” It would look exactly like every administration that embraces American values. Those who want any and every vaccine would have the same access without pressure or shame. Those who do not, would also have the ability to say no without pressure, shame, loss of an education, refusal of restaurant service, unemployment, a life without concerts, Broadway plays and every other “non-mandate” foisted upon us during Covid. Let’s hope EVERY candidate gets this same treatment – meaning media asks them tough questions on a range of topics, including coerced medical treatments.
By Anne Dachel
On June 27th MSNBC published a piece on Robert Kennedy, Jr entitled, The MAGA right is going all in on RFK Jr. That could backfire, by Zeeshan Aleem.
The more the right-wing talks up RFK Jr., the more liberals will see through him.
Embedded in the piece was a 6 minute video with the title, What RFK Jr’s anti-vaccine administration could look like? featuring Hallie Jackson.
Her show, Hallie Jackson Now streams on weeknights at 5 p.m. She is described as a “senior Washington correspondent” for NBC News.
Jackson talked with Brandy Zadrozny, also from NBC, who interviewed Kennedy recently in a story entitled, The conspiracy candidate: What RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine crusade could look like in the White House that came out on June 19th.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a conspiracy theorist running for president as a Democrat. Experts fear his anti-vaccine activism threatens public health in America.
On the latest video, Jackson and Zadrozny aligned to make sure anyone listening would know how dangerous Kennedy would be in the White House or even on the campaign trail. They don’t want to give him a platform, but he’s there and they can’t ignore him.
BELOW is their exchange. Their position is that no one should be allowed to challenge anything we’re told by medical experts. They slam Kennedy for alleging that our federal health agencies need reform.
Zadrozny said that she talks to a lot of “conspiracy theorists” and “internet addled people.” She considers Kennedy to be both. She is worried that if he were President, he would hold the scientific/medical community to ethical standards.
She said, “He’ll investigate scientists and medical journals,” as if that would be an outrage.
She went on to accuse Kennedy and the anti-vaccine movement of causing deaths.
We’ve seen what the anti-vaccine movement can do. Millions of lives lost to COVID. Eradicated diseases like COVID and measles coming back.
Zadrozny made a particularly vile attack on mothers of vaccine injured children.
She wrote:
But what’s unsettling about it is, again, I’ve covered this man for a decade, and when you go to these anti-vaccine marches, you see hundreds of thousands of people who are just enamored with him. They believe whatever he says, especially women, who for decades in the anti-vaccine movement, have just held on his every word and taken everything he said as like gospel.
Those WOMEN that Zadrozny referred to as so “enamored” with Kennedy, are people I KNOW FIRST HAND. THEY ARE MOTHERS. They are mothers of vaccine-injured children. Kennedy is their champion because he actually cares about the damage being inflicted on countless children by our unchecked, unsafe vaccine schedule. These mothers have participated in countless marches and rallies at great personal cost over the last 20 years trying to get the attention of elected officials.
The callous, snide remarks from these two women show an appalling ignorance of what this whole vaccine controversy is all about. Their assignment here was obvious: SLAM KENNEDY, DEFEND VACCINES.
VIDEO:
Hallie Jackson Now
Hallie Jackson: …Today he’s also known as a vaccine skeptic and a leader in the anti-vax movement. …
In an interview with NBC’s own Brandy Zadrozny, here’s what he would do. He would make childhood vaccines go through constant safety studies, even bigger clinical trials, he would gut agencies like the FDA, NIH, CDC.
He would ask the Justice Department to investigate editors of medical journals for “lying to the public.”
Brandy is joining us now. …
Zadrozny: There are some complaints from people on the left that he gets too much air time here. He is a presidential candidate. Can you talk through your thought process here. …
…I was watching his campaign and listening to his kick-off speech, and I was looking at his website, AND suddenly, I didn’t see the word vaccines anywhere, and that’s like the president of Ford Motor Company coming out and not saying the word car.
So it was like, wasn’t happening here? What’s going on?
It seemed to me that he was trying to make himself more palatable, that this was a strategic move because Democrats really do love vaccines generally. …
It’s kind of hard to run for president on the Democratic ticket when you don’t align with your party in that way. So he’s not saying it as much.
So I reached out, and I was really surprised that he said yes. …
I think I hear that a lot. Like, we shouldn’t give him attention, we shouldn’t platform him.
That’s crazy. We’ve passed the point where it’s an option to ignore this man. I think we passed it years ago, because whether you like it or not, Kennedy is here. People are listening to him.
He was just on Joe Rogan’s podcast last week where it reached millions of people. He was trending all weekend long, right?
Our job isn’t to gatekeep, as journalists, I think everybody should go listen to that Joe Rogan show actually. Our job is to explain and add context, and to explain the stakes and ask tough questions that make those stakes really clear.
We’ve seen what the anti-vaccine movement can do. Millions of lives lost to COVID. Eradicated diseases like COVID and measles coming back.
I feel like we ignore him at our own peril.
Jackson: I was struck by so many details from your story, Brandy, but one of them, that a university researcher texted you #GAMA, Give America Measles Again, when you asked about what an RFK presidency or candidacy would look like here because of where he is in the vaccine skeptic movement.
You talk about holding truth to power in some ways, trying to combat misinformation. You did that a little bit in this hike…
At one point you write that the conversation felt unsettling to you. Explain that.
Zadronzny: I think that I talk to a lot of conspiracy theorists, right? And internet addled people, and I consider Kennedy, Jr to be both of those things.
But what’s unsettling about it is, again, I’ve covered this man for a decade, and when you go to these anti-vaccine marches, you see hundreds of thousands of people who are just enamored with him. They believe whatever he says, especially women, who for decades in the anti-vaccine movement, have just held on his every word and taken everything he said as like gospel.
He’s done a lot of real harm.
I’d never met him before, so being side by side with him and asking him these questions, what sought of struck me was, he really believes all of these things.
There’s a delusion there.
I think that that’s a little dangerous.
I let myself imagine for a second what he would do as President. And just like you said, he’s gut those agencies. He would not prioritize vaccines for the next pandemic, which will happen.
He’ll investigate scientists and medical journals.
The odds are low that he’s going to win, but the stakes are really high. I could really feel that on the mountain.
Zadronzny made one incredible comment. She said, “I think everybody should go listen to that Joe Rogan show actually.”
Seriously?
Since I transcribed what Kennedy told Rogan, https://www.ageofautism.com/2023/06/follow-up-questions-to-skeptics-of-candidate-kennedys-interview-with-joe-rogan.html I was mystified that she would recommend that people listen to the show.
Did Zadronzny actually do that herself?
IF Zadronzny had listened to Kennedy on that broadcast, then the reality is that she was willing to shut her eyes to Kennedy’s charges about vaccines.
Zadronzny must think all the examples of fraud, corruption, collusion and cover-up on the part of health officials and vaccine makers that Kennedy talked about should be overlooked.
Zadronzny is fine with secret Vaccine Court payments made to vaccine-injured children while officials deny side effects. She’s okay with the complete lack of double blind placebo trials before vaccines are put on the market. She’s not bothered by the fact that vaccine makers have no liability for injuries from vaccination.
ALL THESE THINGS and more were discussed by Kennedy and Rogan. So none of it bothered her in the least?
IF people do follow her advice and listen to what Kennedy said on Joe Rogan, I think they will be shocked. Kennedy outlines a history of malfeasance in vaccine oversight. Unlike Zadronzy, parents in the real world see a nation of chronically ill kids and an ongoing explosion in the autism that no health officials can reasonably explain or even cares about.
I agree. Everyone should watch the Rogan interview. They will learn something.
I did see an ad for a prescription drug called, Dexcom G7, a diabetes monitoring system when I first viewed the NBC story. It explains a lot too.
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