Art and Reality: a dialogue

by Jon Rappoport

June 24, 2022

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So you say art turns reality upside down.

Or inside out. Or sideways.

Why?

Because that is the impulse.

Of the artist?

Of everyone. But of the artist, yes.

And this impulse comes from where?

From an attempt to go further.

Further than what?

Further than reality has already gone.

This is an unavoidable impulse?

Yes. You can try to squash it, but it keeps surfacing.

Why aren’t more people artists then?

Because they can’t predict what will happen if they follow the impulse.

Isn’t the unpredictable exciting?

It should be.

So you’re saying many people don’t want to be excited?

Apparently not.

Even as children?

No. Children want excitement. If you give them brushes, they’ll all paint. And if you don’t criticize them, they’ll keep painting.

And then what would happen?

Their lives would change. They would become more daring and more tolerant.

Why?

Because they have less need to defend. Their territory is imagination. Which has no limits.

Does this work for adults, too?

It works for anyone if they try it.

But some people settle into established patterns.

You have to overcome that urge, which is based on sheer habit and laziness and ideology.

There is ideology in art?

There is ideology everywhere. For example, the premise that you have to build something other people will instantly recognize and accept. If you’re hemmed in by that, you’re a prisoner of reality.

How do you escape?

You find out what you want to build.

Apart from other people…

Yes.

But if no one accepts what you build…

Then you deal with that. It becomes a new problem you try to solve.

How?

Up to you.

Most people don’t want that problem.

I can’t help that. If you want to do something badly enough, you will.

And that’s what art is?

I think so, yes. It’s the thing you really want to do, no matter what.

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Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.